You can help the mentally ill and it won't cost you anything...unless...
There was a Proposition on the California ballot this year for the mentally ill. The short version of it is that millionaires would pay and extra 1% to pay for care of the mentally ill. If you're not a millionaire, it costs you nothing. Sounds good, I'm not a millionaire, what do I care, those poor mentally ill need help, and 1% of a million is only 10 grand! They can afford it! Right!
Well, this is a very dangerous precedence, and it shows that maybe, just maybe, not everybody should be allowed to vote (I'm going to say that young voter apathy is instilled by God, as a way to not let college kids that don't get it, vote). Let's observe... Are the number of millionaires equal to the number of non-millionaires in California?
No, being part of the non-millionaire group, out of all the people I know, (and I know a lot of people) I only know a handfull of millionaires. I'll go out on a limb and say I know 25, I may have a hard time coming up with that many, but with the help of the few I know, I should be able to do it. Just for perspective, I have 54 voting age people that work for me, none of them millionaires. I also know a few people outside of work, go through my phone book, email list, friends, relatives, etc. gotta put me at say 500 people, to be conservative.
That puts us at...
Millionaires 25
Non-millionaires 500
Do you see a problem here? There is no chance that the millionaires are going to be able to defend themselves from this, i.e.vote against! Isn't the point of voting to protect us all from tyranny? Would you not call this tyranny? If there is another word for it, please, let me know!
This is why we must revamp our Proposition System, the way it stands now is irresponsible. Too many uninformed voters are swayed by good intentions without hearing the whole story. (Let's not even mention the $3 BILLION we just approved for stem cell research, that the groups that were FOR stem cell research urged us to vote against, =no accoutability) In this instance, what are millionaires supposed to do? They should NOT have to get together, and spend a BUNDLE of their money just to fight against a tyrannical Proposition.
I don't have a great answer, I would love to hear from the other side, or a millionaire!
Keep in mind, most of us are not millionaires, but, I am a single person with no kids, a minority. What if a proposition was proposed...
Prop. 4US:
Since you have no spouse and no children to support you must have extra income, you're going to pay an extra 1% of your income to support at risk teens, just because we need money.
OOOHHH, now I care, now I feel it.
If, "you can place a vote, make a difference and not feel it." It is probably too good to be true.........
Well, this is a very dangerous precedence, and it shows that maybe, just maybe, not everybody should be allowed to vote (I'm going to say that young voter apathy is instilled by God, as a way to not let college kids that don't get it, vote). Let's observe... Are the number of millionaires equal to the number of non-millionaires in California?
No, being part of the non-millionaire group, out of all the people I know, (and I know a lot of people) I only know a handfull of millionaires. I'll go out on a limb and say I know 25, I may have a hard time coming up with that many, but with the help of the few I know, I should be able to do it. Just for perspective, I have 54 voting age people that work for me, none of them millionaires. I also know a few people outside of work, go through my phone book, email list, friends, relatives, etc. gotta put me at say 500 people, to be conservative.
That puts us at...
Millionaires 25
Non-millionaires 500
Do you see a problem here? There is no chance that the millionaires are going to be able to defend themselves from this, i.e.vote against! Isn't the point of voting to protect us all from tyranny? Would you not call this tyranny? If there is another word for it, please, let me know!
This is why we must revamp our Proposition System, the way it stands now is irresponsible. Too many uninformed voters are swayed by good intentions without hearing the whole story. (Let's not even mention the $3 BILLION we just approved for stem cell research, that the groups that were FOR stem cell research urged us to vote against, =no accoutability) In this instance, what are millionaires supposed to do? They should NOT have to get together, and spend a BUNDLE of their money just to fight against a tyrannical Proposition.
I don't have a great answer, I would love to hear from the other side, or a millionaire!
Keep in mind, most of us are not millionaires, but, I am a single person with no kids, a minority. What if a proposition was proposed...
Prop. 4US:
Since you have no spouse and no children to support you must have extra income, you're going to pay an extra 1% of your income to support at risk teens, just because we need money.
OOOHHH, now I care, now I feel it.
If, "you can place a vote, make a difference and not feel it." It is probably too good to be true.........
posted by The Fu2rman at 7:40 PM
2 Comments:
Fu2rman,
I recall hearing two good quotes which are applicable here:
1) "Democracy is the tyranny of the majority."
2) "The death of democracy starts when the people realize they can vote themselves free money."
Ok, so let's think about those. First, as to Democracy being the tyranny of the majority, in the case you present here, it would seem true. But, we love and cherish our Democracy, right? Well kind of, but the reality is we live in a Republic where we elect Representatives to legislate for us. The Proposition system is a subversion of the system of our Republic.
What can we do about it? Well, how about making it illegal for the people (any constituency) to vote themselves "free money." What I mean by this is that we should make it a law that only democratically elected Representatives can vote to raise taxes. And then, how about we go one step further and allow the people to vote on whether to accept those taxes which their elected representatives voted for?
I'm painting broad brush here, but I'm just kind of putting it out for discussion.
Screaming Memes
Fu2rman,
I recall hearing two good quotes which are applicable here:
1) "Democracy is the tyranny of the majority."
2) "The death of democracy starts when the people realize they can vote themselves free money."
Ok, so let's think about those. First, as to Democracy being the tyranny of the majority, in the case you present here, it would seem true. But, we love and cherish our Democracy, right? Well kind of, but the reality is we live in a Republic where we elect Representatives to legislate for us. The Proposition system is a subversion of the system of our Republic.
What can we do about it? Well, how about making it illegal for the people (any constituency) to vote themselves "free money." What I mean by this is that we should make it a law that only democratically elected Representatives can vote to raise taxes. And then, how about we go one step further and allow the people to vote on whether to accept those taxes which their elected representatives voted for?
I'm painting broad brush here, but I'm just kind of putting it out for discussion.
Screaming Memes
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